John Calvelli (Chairman of the Board of NIAF)

Buon cinquantesimo compleanno alla NIAF e benvenuto a John Calvelli, suo nuovo Chairman of the Board

May 13, 2025 753 ITA ENG

NIAF (National Italian American Foundation) is the most important organization representing the Italian American community, and this year it celebrates its 50th anniversary. 2025 is also a year of change for its Chairman of the Board, and since last April, this crucial role has been held by one of the best people I know: John Calvelli.

John is an extraordinary leader with many qualities, the perfect person to lead the NIAF board during this anniversary and in this period of revolution in the relationship between Italy and the US. Navigating these times is complicated; we all need leadership, competence, intelligence, and passion. Kudos to the NIAF friends for choosing a leader who embodies these qualities.

Good morning John, welcome back to We the Italians and congrats on your absolutely well-deserved appointment. I would like to start by asking you about your family's origins: which part of Italy are your roots from?

My parents are both from Calabria, from a small town called Vico di Aprigliano, right at the foothills of the Sila mountain. They emigrated to the United States at different times: they were referred to as “birds of passage”. On my father’s side, my great-grandfather and my great-great-grandfather came to America and then went back, then my great-grandfather came back here in the US and he passed away, so my grandfather in Italy was an only child. The idea of America was very traumatic for him.

On my mother's side, the situation was very similar. My great-grandfather came here, my grandfather came here, but again back and forth, back and forth.

My mother was in Italy during World War II and then was able to come to America in the in 1947. I always share her story because I think it is very telling of the American experience, especially during that time. Her father, my grandfather, had a dairy farm in upstate New York and it was a small community that was made up of mostly Dutch-German farmers that had come over in the 17th century. In that community there were a few Italian immigrants like us, and then there were Jewish children who had lived through the Holocaust, so I get very emotional thinking about it. My mother was in a one room schoolhouse with these children, she had been in America only three months and was taught the Pilgrim's Pride so that they could recite it at Thanksgiving. Being accepted into this community and living the tragedy of leaving Italy and the difficulties was hard for her, but then she was able to put all of this in context by seeing it within the eyes of these children, who by the grace of God were still alive and able to come to America, where they were given an opportunity to start a new life.

When I was a child, we moved back to Italy, because my mother and especially my father felt that it was important to try to return. But then, after nine months, he realized that that was not the appropriate thing to do. So we spent about a little under a year and a half in Italy. I went to kindergarten in Calabria and then we came back to America. And I, again, have this very, very vivid immigrant experience where I left by boat and came back by boat and my father was waiting for us at the pier in Manhattan. So I remember this sense of reconnecting to the United States after having lived overseas, I feel that I have lived in a very real way that immigrant experience.

2025 is an important year: NIAF, of which you have just been named Chairman of the Board, is celebrating its 50th anniversary. Through you, we extend our congratulations to everyone who is currently part of, or has been part of, this extraordinary organization. Could you share with our readers the story of these first 50 years?

We have to always put all of this in context and go back to 1975 and fully understand the Italian American experience at that time; where were as a community, what was needed and what was required.

I think what NIAF did was to fill a need that is still very relevant 50 years later, which is to have a voice for the Italian American community in Washington, DC to serve as the secretariat for the Italian American congressional delegation, to be this bridge between the United States and Italy where we respected, promoted, and preserved the past but really look at the present and towards the future so that we would build stronger linkages between our two nations.

That vision of 1975 is the same vision of 2025, and through different moments in time, we can look at different things that we have accomplished. So, for example, we've been very active on Capitol Hill providing policy recommendations and briefings, bringing Italian and Italian Americans together with leaders in various fields.

We have been supportive of Italy in moments of crisis in terms of what was happening during natural tragedies that hit Italy in the last 50 years.

But I think one of the most important thing from that period was this idea that Italy was a bulwark for social democracy and that we wanted to make sure that those linkages between the United States and Italy were strong, especially during the period of the Cold War. Now we fast forward 50 years and Italy is now a leader in Europe as it was then, but even more so now, it is seen as a staunch ally of the United States on the front lines of many crises around the world. In every international scenario, Italy has a voice and a seat at the table. And I would rather, as an American, see Italy in line with us and we in line with Italy because we are stronger together than apart.

If we think about all of these various components, we realize where are today, also thanks to 50 years of commitment of NIAF. I think I have been to every NIAF gala since 1985. So I have been going for 40 years. And the power of seeing the President of the United States, the Prime Ministers of Italy, leaders from Italy coming together and reinforcing and reaffirming that connection between our two nations, that alone would be enough. I can clearly see the big importance of these moments where people come together to share what their vision and mission is. So if we just did that, that would be exemplary, but we do obviously much more than that.

In the last five years we have seen this real move towards leadership thanks to the relationship with The European House Ambrosetti, identifying issues that need a bit more definition, exploration, data. That has been an eye-opener for us because we learned so much about who we are and also how to strengthen those bonds.

When we talk about these linkages between Italy and the United States, they come in different levels or different forms. We have historically talked about the cultural connections and historical connections, and that needs to be continued because as much as I admire other languages, Italian is the language of culture. So that is one very important pillar, and we have signed an agreement with the Dante Alighieri Society to help expand the opportunities to learn the Italian language in the US.

How and when will you celebrate this important anniversary here in Lazio, your region of honor this year?

What better region to have as our region of honor than the one where the capital of Italy is, the political center of Italy... and obviously we will also celebrate Rome in Washington, D.C. in October 2025. While we are in Rome, we will be meeting with regional and national business, civic and political leaders.

We are excited to continue to celebrate and to identify new ways of working together. In April we had our New York gala and together with it we had our business conference with the Lazio region. It was fascinating because we did a mini Shark Tank, which is an American program where people come and “pitch” their product or their company in a compressed timeframe. We did that with a series of Italian companies from Lazio with these young, dynamic, passionate leaders, business leaders who are trying to make their mark. If we, as Italian Americans, can support that, we are all better off because the products that they are promoting will make life better, not just for Italians, but for Americans and the whole planet.

What are the goals you have set for the years you will be Chairman of the Board?

I think that the best answer I can give you is to read you a part of my speech at the board meeting that elected me.

Our heritage is the glue that binds us. And we believe fervently that our shared heritage is of inestimable value. Our experiences in this great nation have shown what can be accomplished by an immigrant community. Our brothers and sisters in Italy have been a beacon for us, uniting our two nations under a shared set of values that makes us both nations, makes both nations stronger.

But being here is already a statement. Everywhere around this table is a leader. Leadership is an honor and a duty. The honor to serve our community and the duty to serve the mission. Simple yet audacious goal for me is to build a pathway to the future. And to do that, I mentioned three goals.

Number one: how do we make sure that our nations and our community have the leadership they require to thrive? We need to continue to identify and nurture those future leaders. I shared a photo of me at NIAF at 21 years old, 40 years ago. And I said to myself, if my 21 year old self were here now, he would ask for one thing. Don't forget the youth. They are our future. Now that I have assumed this role, I hope not to let him down. So that is number one, this idea of looking to the future and engaging young professionals.

Number two: promoting our language, ensuring that our culture is not lost.

Number three: ensuring the financial stability and growth of the organization.

And then I asked a simple question, can I actually accomplish this? And the simple answer is no. I cannot do it alone. In the words of our colleague Giovanni Colavita, “alone you go fast, together we go farther”. So I am incredibly optimistic that together we can go farther, building upon the incredible work that has already been accomplished.

NIAF has been on this journey for 50 years. What will the next 50 years bring? What we do together in the coming years will help answer that question. I look forward to being on this journey with all of you.

That was part of my little speech when I accepted.

It seems that, even without any political judgment, we can say that this year, the relations between the United States and Italy, as well as with Europe, are rapidly evolving into something very different from what they have been in recent decades. What are your thoughts on this?

I think that the only constant in life is change. So I think relationships evolve, and change. But if the fundamental values and the bedrock of the relationship are there, then we will work through those changes. And my hope is that we will come out stronger on the other end. But there is no doubt that we are in a moment of change. That is probably as far as I would want to go at this point. But I think that for the last 80 years there has been an understanding of the importance of this transatlantic relationship. And I think we can see that even more today. Moving forward, Italy is not the same Italy of 1948. So therefore, Italy has changed and evolved. The United States has changed and evolved. And I think that as long as there are people of goodwill, and I believe that there are on both sides of the Atlantic, and there are organizations like the National Italian American Foundation, I think we are in a much stronger position to help ensure that those bonds stay strong and that we stay united.

One of the latest issues that has greatly concerned the Italian American community is the recent decree on dual citizenship, which risks leaving millions of Italian Americans without the official recognition of something that is already real in their hearts: that they are Italians. What does NIAF think about this, and what are you doing about it?

Having spent my life in government and being counsel and chief of staff of a Congressman on the foreign affairs committee, I have been around international politics pretty much my whole life. And therefore, I come to this with a deeper appreciation of what Italy is going through.

What does that mean? Number one, the challenges in South America, especially with the huge number of people that have been applying. That is a reality. All I can speak to is what I have read, but the numbers are staggering. I think that Brazil alone has 100,000 applications in progress. And I have also learned that in the Veneto region, I believe 80% of all of the work being done at the local judicial level is literally on citizenship. So I appreciate the challenges and I appreciate the concern.

As an Italian American, we have a bit of a different reality here whereby I think there is over 10,000 people in the New York Italian Consulate alone that are waiting for their papers to be processed, so therefore there is a significant number here as well. Here in the United States, the idea of being Italian from the very beginning has been the idea that you are linked to Italy, and that link continues through the generations.

 

It is a situation that is untenable in many respects. My response to that is, let's figure out how to fix the system, how to make the system more efficient, ways and modalities that will make life easier for the people trying to apply and for the Italian Government. So that would be my first reaction to those issues.

The second, which I think is also a challenge, is going back so many generations, could you see going back, as opposed to five or more, three or four? I think there is a middle ground between what is being suggested now and where we were before. And I think like-minded people of goodwill can come together and find that middle ground.

Then you also look at these people that have spent a significant amount of money and shown their interest. I have one case of a friend, literally two years on the waiting list: two years! There is something fundamentally wrong. As an Italian and an Italian American, one of the things that we pride ourselves on is respect, but more importantly is fairness. And it just doesn't seem fair to these people that have really expressed that will of being Italians.

On top of that, there is a whole other group of people, my parents included, that had to renounce their citizenship in order to get American citizenship. These people were and are very connected to Italy, but had to give up their Italian citizenship because of the laws in the country where they were living, where they had to go to create a new life for themselves.

So what is NIAF doing? What we are doing is what we always do. We are bringing this issue to the attention of the Italian American Congressional Delegation to inform our elected officials that this has a significant impact on thousands, if not millions, of their constituents. Also, we are in dialogue with the Italian government and senior leaders in the Italian Parliament to share our perspective on what's happening. We also very much understand this is an Italian issue that needs to be dealt with by Italians in the Italian government, but obviously we should have a voice and an opportunity to voice our concerns.

 

NIAF has been doing that literally from the moment in March that the decree was proposed by Foreign Minister Tajani. Our leaders are working on  this matter and providing appropriate input.

And then, of course, we have the connection with the Italian Embassy in Washington: we have been in constant dialogue with them as well. People are hearing us and understand the concern that good people are being negatively impacted.

Another delicate and important issue is the one concerning Christopher Columbus. You have always fought in his defense, achieving great results in his favor, both in New York City and beyond. Do you believe there is a future in which this campaign against the man that many Italian Americans have chosen as their hero will come to an end?

First of all, every community needs to be vigilant to make sure that they are telling their story in an authentic way and not having their story told by others. That is the most important thing. We need to be able to have a seat at the table to tell our story and share who we are and what we do.

I served on the New York Monuments Commission at a very difficult time, and I was able to bring along and help educate members of that commission that when they entered the room were not supportive and wanted to get rid of the Columbus statue in Columbus circle, and then at the end voted to maintain it. I want to be very clear. That is an important statement about the need to have the ability to sit down and break bread and dialogue with people. It was not unanimous, but it was a victory for us and a victory for what I feel is common sense.

I think that Columbus Day is a day for Italian Americans to celebrate their pride and their heritage, a day that celebrates when the Columbian Exchange began, that this radical moment that changed world history. If we think about a few moments in time that changed world history, obviously people would say the birth of Jesus Christ, Muhammad, the Buddha. These are elements from a religious context that you could say were life-global changing. Who can argue that Columbus' arrival in America did not change the history of the world? It is a fact, and I would say, on balance it changed it for the better. With that arrival, there is good and there is bad. I am willing to articulate that good things and bad things happen, that we have a responsibility to tell the complete story.

What is also important as we are telling that story, is that this is a 15th-century explorer. This is not a 21st-century New Yorker. The arc of justice has curved toward greater respect for civil rights in these past five centuries. So understanding that there are 500 years between his reality and our reality, let's have a conversation. Let's talk. Let's understand where we are. Let's appreciate these various components.

What I said to the people on that commission, and I say it today, is that eliminating that statue is eliminating my heritage as an Italian American and my heritage as a Catholic, because people seem to forget that the Ku Klux Klan and the more radical elements in our society were against Catholics and against Jews and immigrants and targeted Columbus as a symbol to be eliminated.

And then, who paid for many of  those statues? It was our grandparents and great-grandparents that were looking for respect and to be accepted in this country. For them, celebrating Columbus Day meant to reaffirm their rightful place in this country.

NIAF is the most important, powerful, and structured association representing the community of millions of Italian Americans. What can Italy do to send a further signal of recognition and appreciation to all of them?

I will tell you that I am incredibly blessed to see the relationship between the United States and Italy blossoming over the 35 years that I have been involved. During this time, I have seen the Italian government become even more engaged with local communities and looking for ways of increasing those ties. So, I would just say, thank you, on one level.

On another level, I would say, let's keep making that happen. I would also say that the responsibility the Italian government has is really to help promote the language and culture globally, and you look at that, and we need to be doing more of that, not less. If we look at what France, China, Germany and others do, Italy needs to find more ways to continue to expand access and interest in the language and culture. 

Also, we need to keep building the business linkages between the United States and Italy, and we are doing it: it is happening, and again, the one constant is change. The business environment changes every day. The opportunities change every day, so we need to be agile and work together with the Italian government and with the American business community, and that is one of the great skills and abilities that NIAF has.

I'm very appreciative of what the Italian government and the Italian communities at large have done. I would love to find new and interesting ways to expand more: for example, I am thinking about the Roots Tourism. I find that to be an incredibly powerful way of building linkages. I have done that for a couple of my friends. I have assisted them as they returned to their ancestral home towns. It is life-changing. It helps put all of this other work in perspective on why we care about Italy. One of our NIAF challenges over the next four years will be finding more ways to do that. But it is literally not just our challenge, it is really a community challenge, and I would be remiss if I didn't say that we have been fortunate to partner with incredible Italian American organizations, such as the Order of Sons and Daughters of Italy, UNICO, the National Organization of Italian American Women and the Columbus Citizens Fouundation. We have really found common ground with these organizations. There is a unity of purpose and a shared vision to move forward.

I’ll repeat the question, but on a much smaller scale: what can We the Italians do to better promote here in Italy the importance of the Italian Americans?

I think the interesting question with media today is: are they just a megaphone? I would strongly suggest they have to be a megaphone, but also what you and I are doing here, this conversation, asking critical questions to help move the conversation forward. We need to have the ability as Italians and Italian Americans to reflect and have a period of self-assessment. What is working, and what is not? Why should we be doing this over that? It is important for us as a community, on both sides of the Atlantic, for our own growth and maturation.

Therefore, my answer to you is: keep doing what you are doing!

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